Debate (part 1)

Just a quick run-down of the Vice-Presidential debate. I am writing this in real time as I hear it so, while i will run a spell check at the end, dont expect much from the formatting, grammar or style front.


Introduction

• Palin starts by sounding idiotic 'Hi, can I call you Joe?'
• Biden says that they will have to slow down the proposed doubling of foreign aid.
• Palin actually comes out and says she will not answer the questions the moderator or Biden says and say her own thing, which seems to revolve about her talking about Alaska the whole time.
• She wont stop talking about her history with energy stuff, pity what her future plans are rubbish.

Climate & Social Change

• She has managed to mention hockey moms and six-pack Joes int he first ten minutes
• She has just denied climate change being man-made, then said she does not want to argue about the cause.
• Biden: It is completely man-made.
• They both support capping carbon emission.
• Biden: Completely support constitutional and legal equal rights and benefits for safe-sex couples.
  
• Palin: She is for it as long as it does not affect the definition of marriage as between man & women, but is otherwise very 'tolerant'.
• Biden: He say he agrees with her in relation to marriage definition.

Iraq

• Palin: The surge has worked in Iraq, we do not need to leave early.
• Biden: Have a structured withdrawal in the next 16 months and give power back to the Iraqis. A timeline is needed, let Iraq spend its own money.
• Palin: Democrats plan is a white flag.

Iran & Pakistan

• Biden: Pakistan is nearly more dangerous than Iran as it already has nuclear weapons. Mccain's focus on Iraq instead of the taliban and Afghanistan is a huge mistake.
• Palin says that the central war on Terror is in Iraq. Iran cannot be allowed to get nuclear weapons. Obama is naive for agreeing to meet with Iranian leaders without pre-conditions.
• Palin: Dropped that she had a conversation with Kissenger last week. TERRORIST HATES AMERICA AND FREEDOM.
• Biden: we have to listen to our allies and 5 past Secretaries of state and talk to their enemies, McCain say he is willing to negotiate but not sit down. Ha, brought up the fact that McCain said he would not sit down with the Spanish government

Israel

• Palin: A 2-state solution is the right one is Israel/Palestine. This is a top policy and they will support Israel, the 'peace-keeping' nation. they will build their embassy in Jerusalem.
• Biden: A passionate supporter of Israel. Bush's administration has been an abject failure in the Middle East. He neglects to mention the Jerusalem thing.
  
• Palin: There has been huge blunders by the Administration but we must not dwell on them.
• Biden: None of McCain's policies are nowhere different than Bush's
  

Maverick Count: 4

When is it okay to Nuke:

• We must just not allow rogue states to get nukes. America will use theirs as a deterrent. ON a side note, a surge is needed in Afghanistan
• (TV loses station for a few minutes, how annoying)
• Biden: McCain is against any arms control.

Intervention:

• Biden: Very pro-intervention. Voted for the war in Iraq but said he was misleaded. Mentioned about seeing the camps in Chad and Darfur himself.
• Palin: I'm a straight-shooting, straight-talking Washington outsider. Saying Biden is all over the place. She agrees that Darfur needs a no-fly zone and intervention. Mentions fricking Alaska again. That is actually pretty clever, making her Alaska experience actually seem like it has something to do with Sudan